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	<title>Comments on: Your beliefs deserve no deference</title>
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	<description>Whatever I Freaking Feel Like Saying</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!  By all means, feel free to quote me.  (If you do so in writing, a link back here would be appreciated.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  By all means, feel free to quote me.  (If you do so in writing, a link back here would be appreciated.)</p>
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		<title>By: mike k</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>mike k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post!  I have read dozens of atheist blogs and this is the best reply to "respect my religion" I have ever read.  Hope you don't mind me stealing your arguments when I talk to the religious nuts at work.  I knew something that was made up does not automatically get respect,  I respect someone's reasons for a belief, not the belief itself, you articulated this beautifully, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post!  I have read dozens of atheist blogs and this is the best reply to &#8220;respect my religion&#8221; I have ever read.  Hope you don&#8217;t mind me stealing your arguments when I talk to the religious nuts at work.  I knew something that was made up does not automatically get respect,  I respect someone&#8217;s reasons for a belief, not the belief itself, you articulated this beautifully, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, sounds good.  I'll direct you to one of Adam Marczyk's excellent essays, &lt;a href="http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/necessityofatheism.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Necessity of Atheism&lt;/a&gt;, to give you an idea of why I reject the existence of deities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, sounds good.  I&#8217;ll direct you to one of Adam Marczyk&#8217;s excellent essays, <a href="http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/necessityofatheism.html" rel="nofollow">The Necessity of Atheism</a>, to give you an idea of why I reject the existence of deities.</p>
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		<title>By: Karla</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>Karla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with being challenged on the claims of Christianity. I think we all need to examine our belief system and why we believe it. There is a multiplicity of scholarly research into Christianity both by believers and skeptics. I think this is awesome on both sides. I don't want anyone to believe something without using their minds and reason. 

As I said in response to your comment on my blogspot, it is so vital for conversation between worldview constructs for me to lay a foundation about what I mean when I use the word Christian because what you describe and what I am talking about when I say "Christian" are two very different things. 

I do not seek to defend any religion. (See my blog Common Ground) Nor do I seek to attack any religion. For I think all people have a degree of truth in their worldview no matter their belief system. Some have more than others. Truth is what corresponds to reality. I think a part of all belief systems correspond to what is or no one would believe it at all. 

How can we examine what is true or false unless we lay it out there for examination? I want to unpack beliefs from being personal truths to see if they really line up with reality for if our personal truth claims don't measure up to reality then there is no use continuing to maintain them. 

You obviously believe atheism corresponds with reality and Christianity does not. Let's unpack that idea on both our sides to see how each contributes reasonable explanations of the world we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with being challenged on the claims of Christianity. I think we all need to examine our belief system and why we believe it. There is a multiplicity of scholarly research into Christianity both by believers and skeptics. I think this is awesome on both sides. I don&#8217;t want anyone to believe something without using their minds and reason. </p>
<p>As I said in response to your comment on my blogspot, it is so vital for conversation between worldview constructs for me to lay a foundation about what I mean when I use the word Christian because what you describe and what I am talking about when I say &#8220;Christian&#8221; are two very different things. </p>
<p>I do not seek to defend any religion. (See my blog Common Ground) Nor do I seek to attack any religion. For I think all people have a degree of truth in their worldview no matter their belief system. Some have more than others. Truth is what corresponds to reality. I think a part of all belief systems correspond to what is or no one would believe it at all. </p>
<p>How can we examine what is true or false unless we lay it out there for examination? I want to unpack beliefs from being personal truths to see if they really line up with reality for if our personal truth claims don&#8217;t measure up to reality then there is no use continuing to maintain them. </p>
<p>You obviously believe atheism corresponds with reality and Christianity does not. Let&#8217;s unpack that idea on both our sides to see how each contributes reasonable explanations of the world we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1585</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, let me quote my original post:

"always recognized you as a scientific genius, if you will"

Did I expect my IP address to go blindly into cyberspace?  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, let me quote my original post:</p>
<p>&#8220;always recognized you as a scientific genius, if you will&#8221;</p>
<p>Did I expect my IP address to go blindly into cyberspace?  <img src='http://kdegraaf.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous (from Evanston, IL / Northwestern University), I once again ask that you reveal your identity if you wish to have a meaningful conversation here.  I admit that my curiosity is piqued.  :-)

What are you hoping "to learn more" about?  I explained my deconversion &lt;a href="http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/21" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and I'll be glad to answer any follow-up questions you might have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous (from Evanston, IL / Northwestern University), I once again ask that you reveal your identity if you wish to have a meaningful conversation here.  I admit that my curiosity is piqued.  <img src='http://kdegraaf.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What are you hoping &#8220;to learn more&#8221; about?  I explained my deconversion <a href="http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/21" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and I&#8217;ll be glad to answer any follow-up questions you might have.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Kevin - time travels slower than I thought.  I could have sworn it was longer.  Maybe it was your old website before this (which was less of a blog maybe? more of a tech reference, bio/resume, etc.?).  Correct me where I may be wrong.

"also" may be the word incorrectly inserted in that sentence in my original message as I presumed (possibly incorrectly) that you felt the same as I possibly prompting your "deconversion".

Unfortunately, I do not feel best qualified to converse about topics such as deconversion, especially since religion is a very personal topic and each individual has different experiences with religion.  I was simply just hoping to learn more (and maybe attempting to voice that through my post).  

Maybe at this point something you can touch on in future posts?  I see some posts categorized under "rant"...  ;-)  Maybe a post that would never fall under such a category?

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Kevin - time travels slower than I thought.  I could have sworn it was longer.  Maybe it was your old website before this (which was less of a blog maybe? more of a tech reference, bio/resume, etc.?).  Correct me where I may be wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;also&#8221; may be the word incorrectly inserted in that sentence in my original message as I presumed (possibly incorrectly) that you felt the same as I possibly prompting your &#8220;deconversion&#8221;.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I do not feel best qualified to converse about topics such as deconversion, especially since religion is a very personal topic and each individual has different experiences with religion.  I was simply just hoping to learn more (and maybe attempting to voice that through my post).  </p>
<p>Maybe at this point something you can touch on in future posts?  I see some posts categorized under &#8220;rant&#8221;&#8230;  <img src='http://kdegraaf.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Maybe a post that would never fall under such a category?</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1582</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,

I'm not sure how you could have been reading my blog for 2-3 years, since I started it just last June.

If you'd care to identify yourself, I'd be glad to have a conversation with you regarding my deconversion, or anything else that's on your mind.

I disagree with your characterization that I have a "very negative worldview and negative view of those around [me]" and would ask that you support that assertion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you could have been reading my blog for 2-3 years, since I started it just last June.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d care to identify yourself, I&#8217;d be glad to have a conversation with you regarding my deconversion, or anything else that&#8217;s on your mind.</p>
<p>I disagree with your characterization that I have a &#8220;very negative worldview and negative view of those around [me]&#8221; and would ask that you support that assertion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://kdegraaf.net/blog/archives/54#comment-1581</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin -

I must say, I've read your blog from afar for about 2-3 years.  I've known you for quite a long time, though we never developed a friendship.  I do not know what your opinion is of me, though i would suggest you know less about me than really required to make that judgment.  Furthermore, we both probably have made the same judgments of others in our lives.

I remember some very positive things from you, and always recognized you as a scientific genius, if you will.  However, though I am not as good at the hardcore science stuff as you, I have continuously questioned at which point you may have begun to develop this worldview.  I have at times also had a very negative worldview and negative view of those around me, much of which is a result of events in my youth.

I wish you the best.

I do not need a response (though I likely expect one ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin -</p>
<p>I must say, I&#8217;ve read your blog from afar for about 2-3 years.  I&#8217;ve known you for quite a long time, though we never developed a friendship.  I do not know what your opinion is of me, though i would suggest you know less about me than really required to make that judgment.  Furthermore, we both probably have made the same judgments of others in our lives.</p>
<p>I remember some very positive things from you, and always recognized you as a scientific genius, if you will.  However, though I am not as good at the hardcore science stuff as you, I have continuously questioned at which point you may have begun to develop this worldview.  I have at times also had a very negative worldview and negative view of those around me, much of which is a result of events in my youth.</p>
<p>I wish you the best.</p>
<p>I do not need a response (though I likely expect one ;-).</p>
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